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Poster: k-otic Date: Dec 10, 2008 9:53am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are these films PD and okay to upload?

If trustworthy PD distributors sell them i think that the movie companie`s who still have them on their "inventory" list havn´t niced that they lost the copyright on those titles

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 10, 2008 2:56pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are these films PD and okay to upload?

Sometimes those inventory lists are mortgages or sale of physical stock as well as copyrights. Some movie companies have collections of other studios public domain works that they have collected over the years - usually through their theatrical distribution and exhibition wings. Its common practice to sweeten up a copyright mortgage with extra PD titles that you don't actually own. Saves risking important catalogue titles when mortgaging for the purpose of film financing.

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Poster: wingsprint Date: Dec 10, 2008 3:31pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are these films PD and okay to upload?

now thats interesting stuff that all makes sense

they made me feel stupid
and i deleted the files because i figured i had not done enough searching but i went thru the k-otic steps and then the faqs pages in the IA links and found nothing on the film

do you think its ok to post


thanks for your help

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Dec 10, 2008 11:19pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are these films PD and okay to upload?

"House of Rothschild" is fine to upload. This one is a public domain film.

I imagine that it appears on the above copyright transfer list because 20th C Fox have recently started exploiting their back catalogue, including public domain items, in various markets worldwide. This doesn't change the fact that the public domain items are public domain. It just means that there is an "official" version floating around somewhere.

"1984" is OK to upload also. British law provides a copyright period of 50 years for television broadcasts and recordings derived from them.

This broadcast is highly sought after as one of the highest rated British programmes of the 50s (upon its repeat at the request of The Queen and Prince Phillip.) Underlying rights (literary, dramatic, musical) in TV broadcasts from Britain are not infringed by making the broadcast available outside its copyright period. The only exception to this is if the broadcast originally infringed the underlying copyright. In other words, if the script or music were used in the original broadcast without permission. This is not the case with "1984" which was an authroised adaptation of George Orwell's novel.

If you upload "1984" again put a message into the Classic TV forum http://www.archive.org/details/classic_tv#forum for it to be moved into that archive. It will be very much appreciated there.

And thank you. These were two great contributions to the Archive. I hope these two items don't disappear forever.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2008-12-11 07:19:33